Possible Turbo Kit...

[Nemasys]

Ok so i was reading up on Ebay about "D" series honda headers since a couple of ppl talked about it. Well if a "D" series header could fit easily enough we could have ourselves a possible turbo kit for around 1000$. There would still be things to work out like piping and stuff but we would have all the rest (mani, turbo, wastegaste, i/c, etc)

I think it could be possible, if i had the money i think i would try it....

[05aveohotrod]

You could use the kit but you'd have to toss half the stuff. The only things you could use would be the manifold, turbo, BOV, and intercooler. None of the piping or exhaust would match up. With the kit (or even piecing it together) your still $1500+ once you figure in the IC piping and bending, exhaust, boost controller, hardware, etc.. I'm a little below 1g right now and all I have is the header which needed a ton of mods to work, a turbo, and boost controller. You really can't go over 7-8psi on the stock block which equates to about 50-60whp. With the right tuning (plugs and AFPR) you can get the same power out of NOS for $500. In hindsight thats what I would have done.

[Nemasys]

The kits im talking about dont have exhaust parts only piping, some might be usuable and most of the kits are pretty complete. By looking at them the only real thing that would be unusable would be the piping. Of course some custom exhaust work would be needed but maybe not that much depends how the mani and turbo would fit.

I was looking at the car this morning and it looks like the piping would be pretty simple. Im pretty sure there is enough room just behing the foglights to run piping, i/c then it would go in where the resonator air box thingy is and come up through the fender (where Sam's CAI passes) up to the TB.

Anyways there is still much research to do for this... Im just trying to piece ideas together since im pretty sure ill be heading down the turbo path maybe next summer or so. If this works out ill have a d@mn long "How to" to write up lol!

[05aveohotrod]

www.daewootech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3189&highlight=list

The majority of this will swap over to the Aveo. Same general idea. The piping might work but it would still need bending and once you bend a bent piece you run the risk of crimping. I bought 3 6ft lengths of 3" stainless piping thru a distributor at work and it was almost $250 shipped. Not cheap. Plus I have a bender at work so the labors free. I had a shop qoute me $200 to bend all the IC piping. This stuff ain't cheap. Plus there is no fuel management system for our cars. A bought a SAFCII used but I'm not sold on its effectiveness with the OBDII. Like I said before, your still looking at $1500 for a garage looking install or $2000+ for a nice clean complete one.

[frenchard101]

you know if you're only running 8psi max you can always buy a bunch of pvc piping at home depot. im planning on buying like 10 feet of straight 2.5" pvc pipe and a bunch of bend connectors, then once its all cut and fit together just use some super strong plastic adhesive. Thats waht i made my cai out of, works great.

[AveoSam]

you could but that leaves you with no room to build to more psi or power.....its possible to turbo this car with about 6 psi for around $900 bucks, you just got to know the right people to get the parts and be able to do all the work yourself

[y2daniel1981]

aveosam said:

its possible to turbo this car with about 6 psi for around $900 bucks, you just got to know the right people to get the parts

like i do ;D

[AveoSam]

well do it then! lol me on the other hand, i rather use that 900 for a motorswap then save up again to turbo....because like aveohotrod said you will only gain 50-60 hp which u can basically gain from just swapping.....so if i turbo the swapped engine i could add 50-60 to the 150whp which give me pretty close to the power i want in the aveo.....

[05aveohotrod]

In reality, you could save a ton of money and run non-intercooled. I've owned 2 turbo Dodges from Daytonas to my 85 Laser XT that I just bought back that were non-intercooled from the factory. They ran 8psi thru the rpm band with a 12psi spike. No detonation and they are resonably effeciant. Save a ton of cash on piping and intercooler. BTW: PVC pipe is about the worst thing you can use. A turbo gets to be around 600-700+ degrees and PVC, on average, can take 250-300 degrees. You would have turbo piping soup.

[y2daniel1981]

05aveohotrod said:

In reality, you could save a ton of money and run non-intercooled. I've owned 2 turbo Dodges from Daytonas to my 85 Laser XT that I just bought back that were non-intercooled from the factory. They ran 8psi thru the rpm band with a 12psi spike. No detonation and they are resonably effeciant. Save a ton of cash on piping and intercooler. .

But what was the compression? And timing may have been retarded more

[05aveohotrod]

2.2L T1 Chrysler engines are generally 8.5-8.8 compression depending on the year. The T2 engines (intercooled) ran about the same. The 2.2L are a screwed up design anyway. The intake and exhaust manifolds are stacked on the same side of the head. You get a good amount of heatsoak on the intake mani. And thats the main reason these engines are prone to headgasket failure. Thats why alot of guys now are swapping in DOHC Neon heads onto the 2.2L or doing SRT-4 swaps. I just picked up and sold a totaled 91 Talon TSI that was rolled to strip and the difference in the Dodge turbo motor to the DSM is amazing. Much more effecient design and alot nicer package. But back to the 2.2L, it is pretty pig-rich and well tuned from the factory and they run a decent mid to low 15sec with all the power options and no additional tuning. Not too bad for an eighties Chrysler product.

[khan4rtist]

is it necessary to mess with the ecm and fuel injectors when adding boost, say 5-6 psi?

[AveoSam]

sometimes yes , sometimes no...some one has to try first

[exodus]

depends on any number of things. To stay on the safe side I would say yes. Leaning out isn't a good thing to do.

[y2daniel1981]

and neither is riching out... it's a dangerous dance